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- From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc
- Subject: Re: Amiga and Newton?
- Date: 11 Jan 1996 18:00:10 -0800
- Organization: The Portal System (TM)
- Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com
- Message-ID: <149573@cup.portal.com>
- References: <1996Jan11.174334.26296@combdyn.com>
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- >I'm thinking of getting a Newton MP120 w/2.0 (to replace my current Sharp
- >ZQ-6100 organizer....which replaced my Casio BOSS SF9000). But, I'd like
- >to know how usuable it is with my home computer of choice.
- >
- >Namely an Amiga 3000.
- >
- >
- >--
- >SNAIL: Lawrence Chen, P.Eng. VE6LKC/VE6PAQ
-
- Not very, but with a qualifier.
-
- a) there is absoutely NO official Apple software that runs on
- Amigas and talks to Newton. It comes only as Windows or Mac software.
-
- b) There's a shareware pk called "YAPI" (Yet Another Package Installer)
- which is installed on the Newton and lets it talk to any kind of
- computer's x-modem capable terminal program from which it can
- download Newton applications (known as self-installing ".pkg" files)
- The trick is getting YAPI on the Newton in the first place.
-
- c) The qualifier is as follows: you get the ShapeShifter 3.3 Mac
- emulator running on your Amiga. Then Your Amiga becomes a Mac and
- you can run the official Apple<>Newton software (or just about any
- other Mac software for that matter) so the two can talk to each
- other. This will require a proper cable. I'm [] this close to
- getting this working. The author of the ShapeShifter emulator
- himself owns a Newton and tells me he has it working.
-
- d) email: you can get a "Newton Mail" account (which runs thru Apple's
- eWorld service) and a modem for the Newton and use that connection
- to get texts from the computer via email to the Newton. And probably
- .pkg files too since on eWorld are many Newton support areas with
- a lot of p/d software in them, so you can download them, unSIt the
- pkg files on the Mac (emulation), then log into eWorld (ask Apple
- for the Mac software), upload the .pkg files themselves to your
- own email account, log off, then log back in thru your NewtonMail
- account and receive them, where they'll self-install on the Newton.
-
- Note that the current Newton model sold is oNLY the model MP120
- but it's out there in two flavors:
-
- 1) with the older 1.3 OS on it for about $399 (but in a box that
- also contains a "free" external Newton 24/96 FAXmodem)
-
- 2) with the brand new much improved 2.0 OS on it for $550-$699
-
- The 1.3 OS version 120 can be upgraded thru Apple to 2.0 OS for
- about $100 and they pay Fedex shipping charges both ways and provide
- a mailing box. (Call 1-800-SOS-APPLE for details).
-
- Any model of Newton earlier than the MP120 (the Original Msg Pad, the
- 100 and the 110) cannot be upgraded to 2.0 OS. Their ROMs are
- soldered, not socketed.
-
- There are quite a bunch of Amiga owners out here struggling to
- interface these two beasts, some have been more successful
- than others. But it's doable to a high degree if you get the
- SS emulator.
-
- Harv | "Do you recognize the
- harv@cup.portal.com | Bell of Truth when you
- http://www.portal.com/~harv | hear it ring?"
- hlaser@eworld.com <--- Newton mail only! | - Leon Russell
-